Beware the Forgotten Pair in the Travers

It is time to finally sort out the best 3-year-olds, and every one not named Geaux Rocket Ride will be in action Saturday in what promises to be one the most hotly contested Travers Stakes in years. But before you jump to any seemingly logical conclusions there may be two gems lurking below the surface who could prove to be big overlays. ~ Steve Haskin

Beware the Forgotten Pair in the Travers

By Steve Haskin

 

There is no doubt the main storyline in this year’s Travers Stakes is the battle for 3-year-old supremacy between 2-year-old champion and Belmont Stakes runner-up Forte, Kentucky Derby winner Mage, and Belmont winner Arcangelo, with due respect to Haskell winner Geaux Rocket Ride who is back in California awaiting the Pacific Classic.

It is going to be tough separating the big three, with the relentless and indefatigable Forte the likely favorite. We also will have Preakness winner National Treasure, who actually will be a fairly big price in this field, completing the Triple Crown trifecta. If Forte does go off as favorite as expected that means the Travers will have the winners of the Kentucky Derby, Preakness, and Belmont, and none of the three will be the favorite.

But there may be a lot more to the Travers than trying to figure out which of the big classic horses will emerge victorious and put himself at  the head of the 3-year-old division, at least until we see how Geaux Rocket Ride fares against older horses at Del Mar the following week.

However, what adds to the Travers intrigue is the strength of two horses who are likely to be overlooked, but are talented enough on their best day of upsetting the favorites. Both horses have been considered disappointments based on their failures in big stakes, but could be powder kegs waiting to explode when no one expects it. They are Disarm and Tapit Trice. Both were once highly regarded and you never want to give up on a talented horse too early, especially when there are circumstances surrounding their defeats. I believe Disarm and Tapit Trice are being dismissed prematurely and there is a decent chance either one could prove to be big overlays in the Travers and at least sneak into the exacta or trifecta. It won’t be easy, but this is Saratoga.

It is extremely rare for me to rank a maiden winner in the Top 12 no matter how impressive he looks because I have seen too many fail to reproduce that brilliance when they face winners, especially stretching out to two turns. But sometimes you see something special in a horse that gives you enough confidence to take a chance on him. I saw enough in Disarm’s maiden victory at 2 going seven furlongs to rank him No. 12 in Week 1 back in January. The following week I was even more brazen by ranking Tapit Trice No. 7 off a neck maiden victory going a flat mile in the slop.

Both horses looked as if they had bright futures at classic distances, especially with their long stride, fluid action, and powerful pedigree. Two months later in my March 27 Rankings, Tapit Trice was ranked No. 3 and Disarm No. 7, showing both had made great progress. It is now August and although they have taken a slight step backwards there have been circumstances surrounding their defeats and their 3-year-old campaigns, which I believe have compromised them, and they now return to 1 1/4 miles over a track that tests one’s stamina more than the Kentucky Derby. You can count on one hand the number of wire-to-wire Travers winners in the last 40 years. Usually, when a horse wins the Travers leading every step of the way they wind up breaking the track record (see Arrogate, General Assembly, and Honest Pleasure, the last three track record holders).

Of course, Forte, Mage, and Arcangelo all come from off the pace, which should make this Travers a real battle down the stretch. But remember, Arcangelo had a perfect ground saving trip in the Belmont and hasn’t raced in 11 weeks and Mage had a perfect pace setup in the Derby, and we are looking for potential overlays in an absolutely loaded Travers with three exceptional contenders.

Before we continue I just want to add that I was surprised to hear that Bob Baffert is now pointing Reincarnate for the Pennsylvania Derby and National Treasure for the Travers, as it would seem each horse is better suited to the other race. But Baffert has his reasons and is almost often proven right. We could very likely be looking at another paceless race that National Treasure will be able to control if he can outrun the lightly raced Curlin Stakes winner Scotland, who has some early lick. . But as we said it is not easy stealing the Travers, with its deeper surface and where closers can turn into stalkers.

So now let’s take a look at the careers of Disarm and Tapit Trice and how they are coming into the Travers.

DISARM – He displayed all the tools I look for in his maiden win at Saratoga last August and did not run again in over six months. He returned in a one-mile allowance race at Oaklawn and had to chase a loose on the lead speed horse. Despite closing his last quarter in :24 2/5 he had to settle for second. It was now late March and trainer Steve Asmussen had no choice but to run him in the Louisiana Derby at 1 3/16 miles in order to pick up enough points to make the Kentucky Derby. That was a tall task considering he was so far behind. Despite still being behind the proverbial eight ball and being victimized by an insanely slow pace set by another loose on the lead horse, this time the highly regarded Kingsbarns, he rallied from sixth in a 12-horse field to finish a clear-cut second behind Kingsbarns, coming home his final three-sixteenths in a blistering :18 flat.

When it became apparent he was going to need more points to be assured a spot in the Derby, Asmussen again had to make a bold move, running him back in only three weeks in the Lexington Stakes, dropping back to 1 1/16 miles, and then having to come back in another three weeks in the Kentucky Derby. He needed only to finish third to assure a spot in the Derby and Joel Rosario rode him with that in mind. He gave him just enough to do and managed to pick up the show spot behind two talented and fast horses, First Mission and Arabian Lion. Disarm bounced out of that race in great shape and was training sensationally leading up to the Derby. Sent off at 27-1 in the 18-horse field, he overcame traffic problems and a rough stretch run to finish a strong fourth.

Asmussen, wanting to give him some time after his frantic Derby campaign, ran him back five weeks later in the Matt Winn Stakes and he scored a gutsy victory over Blue Grass Stakes runner-up Verifying. Then came the Jim Dandy for his Travers prep. Run over a sloppy track, and with only five horses in the field, he was last throughout behind a slow :48 half, and ran evenly in the stretch to finish fourth, beaten only 2 1/4 lengths by Forte, while striding out with great authority in the final furlong. So with everything, he now has two lengths to make up on the favorite and gets back to 1 1/4 miles.

Looking at his Equibase speed figures, I couldn’t help but notice the progression – 75, 83, 85, 95, 98, 100, and 106. That last figure in the Jim Dandy is six points faster than Arcangelo in the Belmont; four points faster than Mage in the Kentucky Derby; four points faster than National Treasure in the Preakness; and three points faster than Tapit Trice’s career-high figure in the Blue Grass Stakes.

With his low action and the great extension to his stride, as well as his strong distance pedigree and being inbred three times to Fappiano through his three stamina-oriented sons, I am anxious to see if this colt is ready to fulfill the promise his connections have had for him from day one.

TAPIT TRICE – There have been a number of handicappers who have come out following the Haskell and stated emphatically they are done with this colt, feeling he has either been underachieving, needs a perfect trip on the outside with no traffic, or simply is not as good as they once thought. But let’s take a closer look at this colt before dismissing him. First off, he went into the Kentucky Derby riding a four-race winning streak, including a late-running victory in the Tampa Bay Derby following a slow start and a gutsy score in the Blue Grass Stakes.

I don’t believe he was ready mentally to handle an 18-horse field, in which he got swallowed up in traffic and didn’t really get into the race until he was steered way out to the middle of the track all by himself away from the kickback and managed to finish a respectable seventh. This colt has a big long stride and is sluggish coming out of the gate, but he knows how to win in different ways when he gets the right kind of trip.

Following the Derby he waited for the Belmont, the race most everyone had him winning months in advance. While many were disappointed with his third-place finish, I thought he ran an excellent race to finish third, beaten only 1 1/2 lengths, and a nose for second by Forte. If there is one thing you never ever want to do at Belmont it is go wide into the far turn and get hung on the outside the entire turn. It is too long and sweeping and that prolonged ground loss takes too much out of a horse, who rarely is able to sustain his run through the stretch. Tapit Trice was forced to go five-wide into that turn. Although Forte was outside Tapit Trice tuning for home, he had swung out at the five-sixteenths and was never hung wide for that long like Tapit Trice was. As a result, Tapit Trice actually got a faster Thoro-Graph figure than Forte, equaling his career-high “1” in the Blue Grass Stakes. Only Mage has run a faster figure in his career.

Despite losing all the ground, Tapit Trice kept on relentlessly down the stretch and was just nipped at the wire for second by Forte. In short, this was a far better race than many people felt, especially those who had conceded the Belmont to Tapit Trice months earlier and were upset he didn’t win.

OK, so what happened in the Haskell, in which he showed little and finished a well-beaten fifth? What happened is that he ran a bad race, period. But in his defense I will say I’m a firm believer that if Forte was not a confirmed starter for the Jim Dandy there is no way Todd Pletcher would have run Tapit Trice in the Haskell. If there is one horse who is not suited for 1 1/8 miles at Monmouth Park it is Tapit Trice. This is a small track with short turns that is firmer than Saratoga and is more geared toward quick athletic horses like the one-two finishers, Geaux Rocket Ride and Mage. Last year’s winner was the quick and agile Cyberknife, who won by a head over the equally quick and agile Taiba in a track-record 1:46 1/5. There is no way you’re ever going to see Tapit Trice run 1 1/8 miles in 1:46 1/5. So in my opinion he simply was not a good fit for the Haskell and could never get in gear. I believe he will handle the looser Saratoga track, which tests a horse’s stamina.

He’s been sharp in his training at Saratoga, working in company with Forte, and like Disarm just might be ready to find the right race at the right distance and on the right racetrack.

So although you likely are trying to separate the big three, and rightly so, or are even trying to make a case for National Treasure pulling off another typical Baffert heist, just keep Disarm and Tapit Trice in mind when you are plotting your strategy for the exotics. One of these days these two talented horses are going to find the right conditions and put it all together at enticing odds. Could it be Saturday?

Photos courtesy of Coglianese Photos

Racing historian, author, and award-winning retired journalist for the Daily Racing Form and The Blood-Horse, Steve Haskin was inducted into the National Museum of Racing Hall of Fame’s Media Roll of Honor in 2016. Known for his racing knowledge and insightful prose, he has been an exclusive contributor to Secretariat.com since 2020.

 

87 Comments

  1. Mike Relva on August 27, 2023 at 10:06 pm

    Give me a break! Agree w/ Jenna.

  2. Matthew W on August 27, 2023 at 10:30 am

    The post race comments…..by trainer Jenna Antonucci….they smack of victimhood, somewhat, I’m sorry—-any other trainer and Arcangelo goes off favored? Really? They all were critical of the layoff? Really? I didn’t notice everyone being against her and her horse, is she forming a narrative, of sorts? Good story, good horse, for sure, it’s a story that tells itself, no need to help it along…..

    • Lynda King on August 27, 2023 at 11:25 am

      Read Jenna’s comments and found nothing that “smacked of victimhood”.

      In this country at the very least, the sport of horse racing, breeding and training of Thoroughbreds, ownership and the jockeys are still very much a man’s game as compared to other countries like England, Ireland and Australlia.

      I happen to agree with what Jenna said and I have actually read some of criticisms, made against her by others.
      If the team wins the BCC, then Arangelo will be 3 year old and possibly HOTY.

      Saturday was yet another absolutely dismal day for horse racing. That rainbow that appeared after Arcangelo, Jenna and Javier won gave most everyone a sign of hope.

      • Ms Blacktype on August 27, 2023 at 12:14 pm

        I agree with Lynda, Matthew. Jenna Antonucci burst on the scene with Archangelo’s Belmont victory, and she has been subject to a lot of pressure and scrutiny. Archy looked far and away the best 3YO this year. He and Disarm are peaking at the right time.

        • Lynda King on August 27, 2023 at 12:49 pm

          Totally agree MsZ

      • Matthew W on August 27, 2023 at 12:29 pm

        So you agree with her words that any other trainer of Arcangelo and he would have been favored, in The Travers? She’s saying the bettors laid off the horse because it was HER, training the horse? I don’t agree with her about that…it rubs me wrong, at least ..

      • Terri Z on August 27, 2023 at 12:34 pm

        Matthew W: Jenna is not claiming to be a victim. As you are a male, you have not faced any discrimination due to your gender. But there have been plenty of women in racing who have faced discrimination in their careers.
        I have a feeling that two of our departed American Queens of racing were watching and smiling down: Penny Chenery and Marylou Whitney.

        • Lynda King on August 27, 2023 at 12:50 pm

          Totally agree Terri.

        • Matthew W on August 27, 2023 at 12:55 pm

          “Any other trainer and my horse goes favored, I am sure of that”…….I don’t agree with her about that, and it does smack of victimhood, but as you correctly stated I am a male so there’s that ….

          • Todd Vaughn on August 27, 2023 at 4:21 pm

            I wasn’t particularly offended by Jena’s comments, and i was glad Arcangelo won, but as we have often seen in the past, it is generally better to let the horse do the talking.

    • Mike Relva on August 27, 2023 at 10:03 pm

      Applies for BB as well.

  3. 1JoeP on August 26, 2023 at 9:23 pm

    Congrats to JC and Jenna and ArcAngelo in winning the Travers. Disarm continues to improve and ran a valiant 2nd. I was thrilled to hit an $11 EX AA/Disarm which made my day. RIP to NY Thunder. These horse deaths are happening way to often. Very sad and disheartening.

  4. Nelson Maan on August 26, 2023 at 7:13 pm

    Congratulations to Steve are in order as his longshots (Disarm and Tapit Trice) performed better than the majority expected… we should always listen to the intuition of expert historians…

    I am very happy for Castellano and Jena… Arcangelo looks like a serious contender for the BC Classic and Horse of the Year honors… it is between him and Geaux Rocket Ride now… the Older horses don’t look outstanding enough against the 3-year-old top tier.

    The late Arrogate becomes the 17th Travers champion who also sired a winner of the mid-summer Derby…

    Heartfelt condolences to Jorge Delgado and to the team who loved and cared for the unforgettable New York Thunder… RIP flying son of Nyquist…

    • Steve haskin on August 26, 2023 at 10:55 pm

      Thanks Nelson, I appreciate it.

  5. Matthew W on August 26, 2023 at 4:43 pm

    Stop…..rolling down the track cushion….deep mud results in slower times, messier animals…..but a deep muddy track is SAFE—-rolling down the cushion is a dangerous practice, in Quarter Horses racing I steer clear of horses that ran over wet-fast surfaces, leave the cushion alone!..

    • Matthew W on August 26, 2023 at 4:55 pm

      Update! They opened up the track…..it was only sealed for the one (tragic) race….

    • Steve haskin on August 26, 2023 at 4:59 pm

      I couldn’t agree more. Stop turning these tracks into highways. They never used to seal tracks and horses just splashed through the water and the form stayed pretty much the same and the tracks were safer. Horses today dont even make it to surgery. every injury is catastrophic. The bones have gotten weaker, horses are more unsound. Its gotten sickening .

      • Steve haskin on August 26, 2023 at 5:10 pm

        Also back then you had standing water on top of a good cushion. In fact a sloppy track often helped a horse who had soundness problems because it was easier on them. And the horses weren’t pumped with pain killers and anti inflammatory drugs. You were not allowed to have anything.

        • Discopartner on August 26, 2023 at 5:20 pm

          This summer has been wet vs very dry last summer, the base may have been damaged somehow. They don’t race every day it rains.

        • Matthew W on August 26, 2023 at 5:27 pm

          Well back then they DID pinfire a tendon or two, but I get your point…that 1974 Travers….one of the wettest surfaces I have ever seen….was one of my favorite Travers Stakes!…..

        • Ms Blacktype on August 26, 2023 at 10:18 pm

          I don’t know if it was the track, or some underlying soundness issue, but I’ve never seen a horse snap a fetlock like that. So sad for all the connections of that wonderful horse, who was easily going to win a Grade 1 race.

          • Jiffy on August 27, 2023 at 12:36 am

            When Maple Leaf Mel suffered her injury, I couldn’t remember ever seeing a horse who was clearly winning break down within strides of the wire without any foul or bumping or clipping heels. Now I’ve seen it twice in three weeks, and if what I’ve read is correct, the injury seems to be about the same–a catastrophic break in the fetlock area. I find that really strange. I too have no idea about the cause, but it’s a bit much to be a coincidence. I also offer sympathy to the human families of all these horses.

            • Ms Blacktype on August 27, 2023 at 1:38 am

              That struck me as weird too, Jiffy. He wasn’t under any pressure, but he certainly was running fast. I had Mel’s race on tape delay so I never watched it. The impact on such a hard surface must be part of the problem.

            • TerriZ on August 27, 2023 at 12:38 pm

              Jiffy, Eight Belles broke down before the finish line in the Kentucky Derby in much the same way. (Sadly)

              • ChiefsCrown on August 27, 2023 at 5:02 pm

                Actually, Eight Belles broke down strides after the wire to finish second. Still have never watched a repeat of that Derby.



      • Terri Z on August 27, 2023 at 12:45 pm

        Steve Haskin, thanks for your concern about the track safety and about the lack of bone strength in today’s horses.
        I wish our breeding was based on the horse’s ability to race rather than the sale price.
        I wonder how the Japanese will do with their breeding program now that they intend to breed Honor Code (descendent of Seattle Slew, Secretariat, and Secretariat’s daughter Terlingua) with mares the are descendants of Sunday Silence.

  6. Todd Vaughn on August 26, 2023 at 3:28 pm

    I still like Arcangelo, but the price is too low. I’ll take a shot with Scotland. Improving, big speed, and the best big race trainer in Mott.

  7. 1 JoeP on August 26, 2023 at 1:41 pm

    Liking AA in the Travers. AA/Disarm EX. AA will be my TRI and SF Key horse. 2/1,4,6/1,4,6. Same for SF. Late pick 5 : 4,5,6/6,7/1,2,5,7/1,2/1,2,3,8. Safe trips to all.

    • Davids on August 26, 2023 at 6:54 pm

      Well done, Joe. I’d like to know how much extra ground Tapit Trice had to cover but that was by design.

      • 1JoeP on August 26, 2023 at 9:26 pm

        Hi David – I was glad to hit an $11 EX with AA/Disarm. I needed Forte or Mage to get 3rd but TT spoiled those plans.

  8. Matthew W on August 26, 2023 at 11:19 am

    Steve Echo Zulu ran an unheard of negative five Thorograph number, four weeks ago, Ill just watch her today, because the bounce factor is in play today, after beating her previous best number of negative one . In The Travers, they like a Mage–Arcangelo straight exacta…

    • Matthew W on August 26, 2023 at 11:43 am

      Excuse me they like Mage, on top of Arcangelo and the big grey today…their problem with Forte is he hasn’t improved this year…but he is always right there …

  9. Matthew W on August 26, 2023 at 11:04 am

    Disarm was pushed into The Lexington, but had they been patient …there were enough scratches he could have got into the race ..but they ran him an extra prep …today will be his 7th 2023 start, he might be ready for his best, he will need it, to win…Forte and Mage look strong, today….

  10. Josh Pryzbek on August 25, 2023 at 5:39 pm

    Steve,

    I love your analysis of these two, and your countdown to the Derby every year! That being said, Forte is a fighter that does not want to lose. I am going to box him with Disarm and Tapit Trice. Thank you again for your insight!

  11. Downthestretch on August 25, 2023 at 3:38 pm

    Steve,
    Thanks for your perspective on this year’s Travers. I agree with you that Forte is the horse to beat and I feel he will do it. The horse that could throw a monkey wrench in his chances is National Treasure but with a BIG … if. He has to control the pace with a 6 furlongs no faster then 1:12 ( 1:13 would be better ) . I am not too hot for Arcangelo due to the long layoff and the soft works ( I feel ) coming up to the race. I think will hang in the stretch unless comes from way back or if the track is sloppy and is just a slop/mud loving fool. As far as Disarm and Tapit Trice they are puzzles to me and just not sure they are as good as Forte. I expect Mage will run well but will need the perfect trip but with rain predicted I think he will need to run closer to the pace and I just don’t know if that is the best spot for him.
    My pick is Forte all the way

  12. Jiffy on August 25, 2023 at 2:29 am

    As I’ve said many times, I’m a fan of Forte and I’m looking for him to run the race that I was expecting on the first Saturday of May. But this field bears a strange resemblance to the Travers exactly sixty years ago–the first time I ever went to a racetrack. The entries that year, like this year, included the winners of the three Triple Crown races (Chateaugay and Candy Spots), the two-year-old champion (Never Bend), and three outsiders (Crewman, Hot Dust, and Choker). I couldn’t believe my eyes when I saw Crewman win with Hot Dust second and the favorites third, fourth, and sixth. If you like Disarm and Tapit Trice, there is a precedent, but I’m hoping that doesn’t happen tomorrow. I want to see Forte’s colors on the canoe.

    • Davids on August 25, 2023 at 3:19 am

      What a marvelous anecdote, watching the sire of Mill Reef and Riverman compete as a three year old in the Travers Stakes. Good luck with Forte but I hope history is ready to repeat after 60 years.

  13. Josh Pryzbek on August 24, 2023 at 7:26 pm

    Steve,

    I love your analysis of these two, and your countdown to the Derby every year! That being said, Forte is a fighter that does not want to lose. I am going to box him with Disarm and Tapit Trice. Thank you again for your insight!

    Josh

    • Steve Haskin on August 25, 2023 at 9:39 am

      Thanks Josh, I also am a fan of Forte, having him ranked No. 1 every week. I would surely not mind to see him win, but from a pure handcapping standpoint I was just looking fo potntiual ovrerlays

  14. arlingtonfan on August 24, 2023 at 3:07 pm

    I just read that due to the renovations at Belmont, Ruffian’s remains have been moved to Claiborne, and Timely Writer’s have been transferred to Old Friends. I am glad they didn’t forget about Timely Writer, a talented horse who overcame so much only to come to a tragic end.

    • Jiffy on August 25, 2023 at 2:43 am

      I’ve often wondered what happens to horses’ remains when a track is closed–or in this case, renovated. Claiborne and Old Friends would appear to be excellent final resting places.

      At the time of Maple Leaf Mel’s death, I was thinking about horses who had similar tragedies, and Timely Writer was one who came to mind. He certainly does deserve to be remembered.

    • Jazil_06 on August 26, 2023 at 4:00 pm

      Speakibg of horse remains, my husband I visited the grave of Sir Barton. He is buried in a corner of a park in Douglas, Wyoming.

  15. Eric Rickard on August 24, 2023 at 9:31 am

    I totally agree that one day, Disarm and/or Tapit Trice will get a perfect setup and win at a big price.

    I am not sure any in the Travers is a standout.

    Mage perfect Set up in the Derby and capitalized. Disappointed in the Preakness, should have been able to be closer and close.

    Arcangelo also had the perfect set up in the Belmont.

    Forte runs his race every time. I feel he will be in the money every time. Not a standout.

    National Treasure ran his race as stated in the Preakness. He also fought hard in the Preakness. Needed time but ran back in the Belmont and didn’t have it. Might be primed for the steal.

    It is an odds play for me, but, you never know the true odds anymore with the Computer bets coming in late.

    I am looking forward to Gauex Rocket Ride and the return of Practical Move. I thought Practical Move was the fastest going into the Derby and should benefit from the time off, if he returns in form.

    Good Luck!

    • Steve haskin on August 24, 2023 at 11:31 am

      Dont forget Arcangelo ‘s 11-week layoff.

    • Matthew W on August 24, 2023 at 12:00 pm

      NYRA has put a stop to last second computer money coming into the win pool, closing the option a few minutes before post time ..

  16. Davids on August 23, 2023 at 11:47 pm

    Steve, it certainly would be something if High Oak could manage to take the Grade 1 Forego Stakes on Saturday. Perhaps the racing gods are feeling sentimental on Saturday. Could be a day of redemption for quite a few. Thunder and lightning are expected Saturday afternoon. Fingers crossed for a safe, thrilling card.

    • Steve haskin on August 24, 2023 at 9:24 am

      I cant believe they’re running him here. He needs to keep building his confidence. The best he could do is finish third 8 lengths behind Elite Power and Gunite. I hope I’m wrong and they know what they’re doing. Maybe theyre content trying to get him grade 1 placed.

      • Davids on August 24, 2023 at 4:54 pm

        Steve, I’d say the latter. It did surprise me, perhaps he’s a marvel in the mud. Who knows, but let’s wish High Oak the best of luck.

      • SJ on August 26, 2023 at 5:10 pm

        You think Mott et al knew what they were doing now?

        • Davids on August 26, 2023 at 7:39 pm

          Good for High Oak and his connections. You got to have faith.

  17. Hammer127 on August 23, 2023 at 11:31 pm

    Steve,

    Great write up as always. What a terrific field for this year’s Travers. I agree with you on Disarm, I will box him along with Forte, Arcangelo and Scotland. Good Luck everyone!

    Best,
    Hammer

    • Steve haskin on August 24, 2023 at 9:27 am

      Thanks Hammer. Chance of a late thunderstorm Saturday and Flavien Prat gets the mount on Mage. Feel bad for Saez.

  18. Lynda King on August 23, 2023 at 11:20 am

    Mostahdaf wins Juddmonte International.
    Desert Crown had surgery on fractured fore fetlock. Future uncertain. Stable at the moment.

  19. ChiefsCrown on August 23, 2023 at 10:16 am

    Just looking back at Belmont Stakes winners that went on to win the Travers. Since 1967, six have won in a span of 56 years.
    Although there have been 2 favorites in the last 3 years that have won. Definately not betting Arcangelo for the win on Saturday. Hoping Disarm wins but my money is on Mage with Disarm, Arcangelo and Forte in that order.

    • SJ on August 23, 2023 at 11:44 am

      Let me guess who your favorite Travers winner is. Mine too. How did you come up with your screen name?

      • ChiefsCrown on August 24, 2023 at 10:48 am

        As a long time KC Chiefs fan and a Buffalo resident by the way…I bet CC in the BC Juvy race and the Triple Crown races the following spring. Thus coming up with the best of both worlds. Later had a Rat Terrier and named him Chief!
        I got a super, boxing and straight of….Mage/Disarm/Forte/Arcangelo

  20. john b on August 23, 2023 at 10:12 am

    Hi Steve. Great food for thought! Always enjoyable. Watching the Belmont replay once again, I can’t help but notice National Treasure’s tenacity up to the mile and quarter mark. With a little breather I’m thinking he may hang around for a nice slice of the pie. Maybe get nipped at the wire by one of the Big 3!? Lots of scenarios for sure. Could I bother you for his ThoroGraph pattern please? By the way Steve, will you be attending the race in person?

    • Steve haskin on August 23, 2023 at 11:33 am

      Starting with most recent …4 1/2…4…4…4…2 3/4…4 1/2…6 1/4

      I’ll be there closing weekend but not this weekend

      • john b on August 23, 2023 at 11:39 am

        Thanks Steve. That pattern doesn’t sound very promising.

        • Steve Haskin on August 23, 2023 at 12:25 pm

          He needs to get much faster. Just hasnt improved at all. Shows you what a bad field the Preakness was.

  21. Todd Vaughn on August 22, 2023 at 7:37 pm

    I have to go with Arcangelo. He wasn’t rushed into the Derby, so he has been developing and improving steadily. His sustained speed should give him first run on National Treasure, who i doubt is good enough to win without a big speed bias. Mage should be ready to run well, but i see him hanging a bit. The others are such grinders, despite apparently good speed numbers, that i wouldn’t want to bet on one grinding it out. And i would enjoy seeing Arcangelo’s low key connections win another big one.

  22. Richard Gross on August 22, 2023 at 2:51 pm

    Wonderful analysis, Steve. The only reason there will be a “favorite” in what is surely the best field of the year to date is because there are bettors.

  23. MEGAHERTZ on August 22, 2023 at 5:47 am

    Great write up as usual!

    I was there for the wedding; I’ll be there for the funeral.

    DIRARM for the win!

    ” JUST GUNNA SEND IT” – LARRY ENTICER

  24. Davids on August 22, 2023 at 3:41 am

    Steve, congratulations, that’s the way to pump up the Travers Stakes, I’m really looking forward to this Saturday now. I may be wrong but I don’t see a big three to be feared of in the possible field. The Haskell Stakes result seldom impacts the Travers Stakes result while you have clearly articulated Todd Pletcher’s dilemma in placing Tapit Trice in a race that was ill suited. Pletcher seldom makes errors like that too often. So, it’s wide open for me. Hopefully, Tapit Trice doesn’t get an inside post because that will sink his ship.

    In the meantime, over the pond, Paddington is all the rage at York for the International Stakes on Wednesday but I’m getting extremely nervous about those silly odds – 8/13. Ryan Moore has three opponents who would enjoy nothing better than spoil the festive atmosphere of York by derailing the brilliant juggernaut, villains. Let’s hope Paddington keeps rolling along.

    Coolmore wiil need Paddington to win the International Stakes to help pay for Lot 244 at Arqana August Yearling Sale in Deauville the other day. Another son of Siyouni – out of Hourglass, a half sister to the outstanding stallion Shamardal, by the immortal Galileo for US$2,390,894. Beautiful colt.

    • Steve Haskin on August 22, 2023 at 8:36 am

      If he gets beat at least you know he’ll go back to dioig wat he does best and hopefully point for the BC Mile

      • Davids on August 22, 2023 at 5:26 pm

        Steve, you never grow out of wanting your favorites to win, forever. Ha ha Realistically though, Paddington should win.

    • Ms Blacktype on August 22, 2023 at 1:23 pm

      Davids, I think Paddington may be a lock. He’s facing only three rivals, and the distance is just a tetch over a mile and quarter. He had no trouble with that.

      • Davids on August 22, 2023 at 6:20 pm

        Yes, Ms Blacktype that is true but the York track has a bit of a reputation not dissimilar to Saratoga – ‘the graveyard of champions.’ Let’s hope, not this time. Fingers crossed.

      • Davids on August 23, 2023 at 5:49 pm

        Paddington will finally get a long deserved break – 7 races in 5 months – with 5 of those races in Group 1 company to top it off while losing only once. The Queen Elizabeth II Stakes at Ascot is probably his next race although the talk of the Cox Plate would be a bonus for me. Ha ha

        You can’t win them all, Mostahdaf, a 4 year old, has only competed in 4 races over a 6 month period, of which only three of those races were Group 1 races, winning twice.

        • Davids on August 23, 2023 at 7:14 pm

          Mostahdaf is a 5 year old.

  25. Deacon on August 22, 2023 at 3:08 am

    I haven’t seen the full lineup of the race but if Arcangelo is running, he is my pick along with Forte.
    Loved the read Steve, great assessments. It’s hard to go against the master though. You are usually spot on.

    • Steve Haskin on August 22, 2023 at 8:38 am

      Thanks Deacon but I’m surely no master. Just supplying the information that people can use in their handicapping.

  26. Melissa P on August 21, 2023 at 8:26 pm

    Great stuff, Steve! I’ve been a fan of Tapit Trice since he first showed up on the scene. Of course, his pedigree snagged my attention immediately. I happen to have a soft spot for another horse that will be a huge long-shot in the Travers. Let’s just say I think he’s a braw lad.

  27. Lynda King on August 21, 2023 at 8:13 pm

    Forte and Mage are my top two, however, I think Disarm has an excellent chance of finishing in top 3.
    His sire, Gun Runner, was somewhat sporadic as a 3 year old but he came back at 4 and knocked everybody’s socks off. If Disarm remains healthy I can see him doing the same at 4. The Winchells do like to race their horses past 3.

    Just have mixed feelings about Triple Trice. Think the talent is there, just not made a good connection in his mind yet, maybe not mentally mature yet is a better connection.

    Hoping for a good race, a clean race and safe trips for all.

  28. Derek Manthey on August 21, 2023 at 8:06 pm

    ” When Haskin speaks we listen” great analysis. Remember the days when trainers would run back in 3 weeks was normal not bold.

    • Steve haskin on August 21, 2023 at 9:31 pm

      Thanks Derek. I think the favorites will be tough. But it’s hard to overlook the odds these two are going to be. Taking a shot.

      • Derek Manthey on August 21, 2023 at 9:53 pm

        I remember when Steve Byk explained that luck is a train on a track, you just have to step on the track and let it hit you!

        • Steve Haskin on August 22, 2023 at 8:41 am

          Kind of a brutal image. Lol

  29. Ms Blacktype on August 21, 2023 at 7:40 pm

    Thoughtful analysis, Steve, especially since you could make a case for almost every proposed starter in the field. Disarm is certainly attractive from a betting (and winning) standpoint, but I’m still on the fence with Tapit Trice. I agree with you that it was not a good play to try him in the Haskell just to avoid Forte. He needs to take a big step forward to beat this field, however. I find myself intrigued by the once-beaten Scotland, who could get loose on the lead and steal the race. It all depends on how the pace plays out.

    • Davids on August 22, 2023 at 6:41 pm

      I’d hoped Tapit Trice would have have gotten a draw further out but it’s better than 1 or 2. The draw result might make the Travers Stakes even more interesting. Good luck.

  30. Gale Harris on August 21, 2023 at 5:19 pm

    I one of those who keep waiting for Tapit Trice to break through again and show his true quality. But I think it’s asking a lot for him to do it in this crowd. Here’s hoping that his chance to shine will come sooner than later.

    • Steve haskin on August 21, 2023 at 5:35 pm

      It is asking a lot but I doubt you’ll get better odds on him than you will Saturday. His speed figures on his best day are as good as any of them so well see if he has his best day

      • Davids on August 21, 2023 at 7:41 pm

        Steve, I’m with you 100% about running Tapit Trice running in the Haskell States. I thought the colt had zero chance on that surface, everything was against him especially as he was coming off a run in a 12f race beforehand.

  31. Jo Anne on August 21, 2023 at 5:12 pm

    I’ve loved Disarm from day one. He’ll be my top play.

    • Steve haskin on August 21, 2023 at 5:36 pm

      One of these days, Pow! Right in the kisser

  32. Matthew W on August 21, 2023 at 2:56 pm

    Steve I too, was on Disarm earlier in the year, and despite the having to run an additional race just to get into the Derby—Disarm ran a terrific race—niw he has had his Travers prep, over a track he likes….I think he’s my Travers play ..

  33. RobinM on August 21, 2023 at 2:16 pm

    Every positive comment about Disarm strikes a chord and it wouldn’t surprise me at all if this colt breaks into the top 3.
    However, I am one of those that’s given up on Tapit Trice. IMO, he’s shown over and over that everything really has to go his way in order to win in top company and I won’t be surprised if he finishes 4th or worse in the Travers.

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